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17 comments:
Never a truer word spoken.
The wise always forgive, never forget.
Seconded.
I did a radio interview recently and the subject was forgiveness. However, the idiot interviewer appeared to just like listening to his own voice too much and was not paying enough attention to what I was saying, or the producer panicked and told him to cut me off.
In any event, my message is basically move on. Getting angry, bitter and twisted only tears up your own mind. Which is what I used to do, until I changed tack. On the other hand, my victim's daughter states she can never forgive me and blames me for everything that has gone wrong in her life since I killed her mother.
Whilst I can understand her emotion, I have got better by moving on and forgiving past things that have happened to me.
So, when the radio interviewer was hoping to get from me "I would like her forgiveness", I said I did not care for the reasons given.
In complete contrast, I remember Gee Walker stating the following, and my heart went out to her: "Why live a life sentence? Hate killed my son, so why should I be a victim too? Unforgiveness makes you a victim and why should I be a victim? Anthony spent his life orgiving. His life stood for peace, love and forgiveness and I brought them up that way. I have to forgive them... we don't just preach it, we practise it. I don't feel any bitterness towards them really, truly, all I feel
is... I feel sad for the family." She even said she could ‘admire’ Paul Taylor, who butchered
Anthony, because he expresses remorse".
I really find it hard to stomach your arrogance JHL when you have the audacity to criticise the daughter of your victim, to put it simply : you do not have the right.
You give the impression that you are proud of your crimes.
Gandhi was a very perceptive man.
Wolfie: Your comment takes some swallowing. Audacity does not come into it, she had her say on Ch4 the same as I did. I do have have the right. We call it freedom of expression. Whatever impression you take, you are molding it yourself to the image which suits your view. Am I to assume that you are an advocate of the eye for an eye school? That is, the school for the blind. I think I will stick with the Ghandi and Gee Walker philosophy, rather than adopt your's. I prefer the strength from courage of my convictions, rather than a sheepie in wolfie clothing. Like Gee Walker said, it was for her own good. So, it was immaterial what I may or may not have desired. I provided sound advice and stick by it. Just because I said it, does not make it any less valid. I prefer not to go in for spreading bull manure. I stay true to my beliefs even if it does not make good radio. I let the dull and ignorant have their sound bites, more gob than sense. I prefer to look up to Ghandi than down to MPs.
I think some things are unforgiveable but it does not mean one need to dwell their whole lives.
Healing should be the catchword-not forgiveness.I don't think one needs to forgive or be forgiven to heal.
I do appreciate your cheeriness though, Cherie.
There is a difference between 'turning the other cheek' and 'forgiveness'.
'Turning the other cheek' means choosing not to avenge, don't hit back, walk on, move on. DOn't live with a grudge.
'Forgiveness' means cancelling a debt.
They are two different things. Sometimes they go together. But just cos someone hasn't forgiven it doesn't mean that they are bearing a grudge or not moving on. It could mean they are turning the other cheek only, maybe cos the other person hasn't changed, or hasn't admitted what wrong they did.
Forgiveness should come after a person has repented, said sorry, admitting and accepted that what they did was wrong.
If they don't do that, I don't think you're obliged to forgive. JC said, "If someone sins against you, then comes to you, admits their debt and asks to be forgiven, you must forgive..." a lot of people go by this teaching but miss the 'admits their debt' part of it.
If forgiveness is cancellation of a debt, how can you cancel a debt if that person doesn't even know they're in debt? How will it benefit them? -Cos that's the point- forgiveness was meant to be a gift to the other person, not to you yourself. If anything, it can cost you.
YOU benfit by moving on, by turning the other cheek. They can go together, but they are not the same thing.
In the end what is important is a forgiving spirit- a willingness, an openess to forgive. This is expressed by letting go, and giving up any right you feel to avenge- this is turning the other cheek.
Hey, Cherrypie! We cort the AWOLS!!!
Thankyou all for your thoughtful comments. I think the response deserves a separate blog post.
Uber, thank you for your supportive comment and welcome back Bob :-)
I'm with you on this CherryPie. But you can only forgive the same person for so many times.
Write to me.
Ellee - Yes I agree. That makes further food for thought!
James - I will, but you will have to tell me what you are thinking here!
There is a lot of truth in the quote.
Welshcakes - I find it a very true and comforting quote.
fantasticcccccccc self, Fairy !!!
and Gandhi, you know i admire and respect him very much ....
lots of love and kissesssssssssssssss
Luisa - I thought you would like this one xoxoxoxoxox
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