Monday, 23 February 2009

Some More Thoughts on Forgiveness

The Ghandi quote in yesterday’s post attracted a lot of comments that give food for thought and which I thought merited further exploration of the idea.

The quote is explaining that it takes a great deal of strength and courage to ‘forgive’ someone and move on. It is human nature to fight back and try and get justice or revenge, but this ultimately leads to the victim being hurt even more. The act of forgiving is firstly a gift and a healing process for the person who does the forgiving.

Shades of Green

Some definitions of forgiveness:
  • To grant pardon for or remission of (an offense, debt, etc.); absolve
  • To give up all claim on account of; remit (a debt, obligation, etc.)
  • To cease to feel resentment against: to forgive one's enemies.
  • To pardon an offense or an offender.
  • A decision to release yourself from anger, resentment, hate, or the urge for revenge despite the injury you suffered.
  • Moving beyond bitterness.
The act of forgiveness is explored on the ‘Garden of Forgiveness’ website. I quote from this document entitled ‘Forgiveness: A Sampling of Research Results’
Forgiveness – Definitions and Effect

Religious scholars of many faiths, philosophers, and more recently, psychologists, have grappled with the notion of forgiveness and have sought to delineate its boundaries.

Defining Forgiveness

Forgiveness is a process (or the result of a process) that involves a change in emotion and attitude regarding an offender. Most scholars view this as an intentional and voluntary process, driven by a deliberate decision to forgive. This process results in decreased motivation to retaliate or maintain estrangement from an offender despite their actions, and requires letting go of negative emotions toward the offender. Theorists differ in the extent to which they believe forgiveness also implies replacing the negative emotions with positive attitudes including compassion and benevolence. In any event, forgiveness occurs with the victim’s full recognition that he or she deserved better treatment, one reason why Mahatma Ghandi contended that “the weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong”
The document goes on to explain the benefits of forgiveness. The ones listed are relevant to the comments on my previous post:
  • Aids psychological healing through positive changes in affect
  • Improves physical and mental health
  • Restores a victim’s sense of personal power
These words from the ‘Daily Trust’ explain that first and foremost the gift of forgiving is a gift to yourself:

There is always another way of looking at something. Most hypotheses on forgiveness suggest that you focus on offering forgiveness to the person who has wronged you, not to forgive them is like taking the poison (continuing to suffer for what they did or didn’t do to you) and expecting something negative to happen to them.

Forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself. It is not something you do for someone. It is not complicated. It is simple. Simply identify the situation to be forgiven and ask yourself: “Am I willing to waste my energy further on this matter?” If the answer is “No,” then that’s it! All is forgiven.

Forgiveness is an act of the imagination. It dares you to imagine a better future, one that is based on the blessed possibility that your hurt will not be the final word on the matter. It challenges you to give up your destructive thoughts about the situation and to believe in the possibility of a better future. It builds confidence upon which you can survive on and grow from it.
To sum up it takes a great deal of courage to forgive someone and move on, not everyone is able to do this. But if they can, they will emerge as stronger, wiser individuals who are comfortable with themselves and the world around them.

...I would just like to remind everyone that my weekly quotes are being taken in alphabetical order from my webpage and if it sometimes seems that I am commenting on any current situation/s, it is totally coincidental...

15 comments:

Crushed said...

It depends on what purpose you think forgiveness holds.
Myself, of course, I was brought up deeply immured in Catholic thought and whilst I don't believe in Heaven or Hell any more, I do believe in Karma. Which in terms of forgiveness amounts to much the same. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, the universe rights itself, it amounts to the same.

Thus forgive, but don't forget. If someone offends against you, you take note. But that is all you need do. You ensure that you then put yourself in a position they cannot offend against you again. The point about forgiving, is you have faith that the universe will right itself, or that God will judge fairly, or however you want to look at it. Forgiveness is about having faith that Good will ultimately triumph.

Not forgiving puts you on the same terms is the one who has offended against you, but it puts you in the same position. Forgiving isn't about healing, any more than turning the other cheek is about weakness. It's about strength. It's about not being turned into that which one despises BY that which one despises. It is about choosing NOT to think eye for an eye. It about choosing to show Love, even to those whom, if these things really were just a set of bargains, are totally undeserving of it. It's about choosing to show that Love is more powerful than Hate. Or that it CAN be.

jmb said...

This post and the other along with the comments were very interesting and thought provoking. I'll say no more as my words are often misconstrued by one of your visitors.

Ellee Seymour said...

It takes immense strength to forgive someone who has caused great hurt. A great post to mull over.

James Higham said...

Forgiveness is a very powerful weapon. If you forgive, you've found closure but the other person who did it has the problem.

UBERMOUTH said...

I think it's a cliche. Would a sexually abused, battered child[like jon Benet Ramsey,had she livd her horrific torture] be expected to forgivee her predator/torturer? One could simply not. It's not the same as forgiving ones foibles.
I guess it comes down to the extent of the 'malicious intent'behind the act on is expected to forgive for.

NOT forgiving someone ,in my mind does, not mean carrying revenge or malice in ones' heart-just nothing for the person who becomes ,by their act, persona non grata.And relegating them to that is enough to heal for me.

UBERMOUTH said...

My keypad is f****ed.Sorry about typos

CherryPie said...

Crushed - Well I believe in Heaven, Hell and Karma, but I do not believe in church dogma.

Your second paragraph I broadly agree with.

I do not agree that by not forgiving it puts you in the same position as the one who offended against you. I also think that love and hate are equal emotions balanced by a fine line. One is more destructive than the other.

JMB - I am glad you enjoyed the comments and debate and am sorry that you feel unable to express your opinions on my blog. I would welcome your thoughts.

Ellee - I have found all the comments, quite thought provoking.

James - I don't see forgiveness as a weapon, quite the opposite.

Uber - Nobody is expected to forgive, but the act of forgiving can sometimes be healing. With regards to 'malicious intent' - such a campaign might reduce the victim to such a state that they can't even think straight, so forgiveness doesn't really come into it at that stage...

NOT forgiving someone ,in my mind does, not mean carrying revenge or malice in ones' heart
That is also a good way forward, maybe I have done that on occasion ;-)

PS: Don't worry about the typos, my keyboard does that all the time...

CherryPie said...

PS: The comment above had been censured by blogger! Or maybe someone from above...

I wrote a rather more expansive reply to everyone, did a copy of the comments just in case, and then clicked 'Post Comment'.

Blogger threw a wobbly and ate my comments and the copy and paste facility provided me with the following:

NOT forgiving someone ,in my mind does, not mean carrying revenge or malice in ones' heart.

Make of that what you will, I am sure there is a message in there...

Welshcakes Limoncello said...

It's very difficult to forgive in some cases and I take Uber's point.
It can also be hard to forgive oneself sometimes - when one has been a complete idiot, for instance.
We can only try.

CherryPie said...

Welshcakes - That is a good point, I often find it harder to forgive myself than someone else...

Anonymous said...

I think that acceptance is just as valuable as forgiveness, you can accept that someone has wronged you but not forgive them, just as you can forgive someone but not accept that the "wrong" is purged.

CherryPie said...

Angus - Yes acceptance is a very good way of feeling at peace.

Crushed said...

One of the key problems with forgiveness is our own human limits.

I've been lucky in life- on the whole.

It's rare that I've come across that much I haven't been able to forgive- eventually.

The hardest I ever faced- up till the last few years- was that my ex girlfriend aborted my son (I say son, but we'll nver know) when I was 22. It took years for me to forgive that.

What enabled me to forgive and move on was surity on two counts. One, looking back honestly, I KNEW that she rgretted in her heart once it was done. But it was too late. She punished herself more than my no forgiving her. To not forgive someone who is already penitent IS evil, I think. Fo me not to have forgiven her WOULD have made me evil.

Secondly, I actually took the trouble to see it from her point of view. I'd never taken the trouble to realise just why it was that deep down she din't want children, whereas for me, settling down is kind of pointless unless you want children. She had, I'm sure pretended to want children, but was only really saying that for my benefit. The appearance of an actual pregnancy forced her to face the truth that she really didn't want children. And of course, if I myself hadn't been so single minded in just focussing how I saw having children, I'd have perhaps paid more attention to certain facts.

Her father was in prison for Manslaughter and used to abuse her as a child- a very nasty man indeed, really. Her mother was continually in and out of mental hospitals and whilst she herself was generally speaking sane, she did have to have counselling for her bipolar disorder. And she was supposed to take medication to prevent her mood swings, which were dramatic. And she was probably aware that the chances of any child she had inheriting something from HER parents was high.

I knew all the family background, of course, but seeing as she was a seemingly successful professional woman, one tended not to think about it. I never really looked at her as a carrier of faulty genes. But she clearly did.

At the time none of this really occurred to me. To my mind 'Little Joe' would be a curly haired little cherub. The spit of his father :).
The idea he could be like his maternal grandfather never struck me.

So in retrospect, I can forgive her.

I think forgiveness is harder when the one you are supposed to forgive, shows no sign of repentance or remorse. And when they carry on. Indeed, forgiving them gets you nowhere because they then just bite the hand that is reaching out to forgive them. You forgive them and they still carry on their campaign of malice.

Unlike Angus, I would say that acceptance IS forgiveness, to a certain degree. Forgive but not forget entails an element of comprehension. Forgiveness is hardest when we cannot comprehend the wrong done to us. When we can at least comprehend it, that takes us somewhere.

For example, without going too much into it any more than I need to, over the last two years I hav been subject to a directed campaign of hatred and malice the like of which I have never experienced. And I can't pretend that I truly understand it. It still hasn't ended and I wonder if it ever will. I cannot in all conscience see what wrong it is I'm supposed to have done to the person behind it. I can in all honesty say that all my dealings with that person before their behaviour spiralled out of control were scrupulouslu fair and honest. Yet their campaign against me has been the most horrific onslaught of malice I've ever come across.

Bearing in mind I've never even been hated before by ANYONE in my life, that's hard to bear.

I do not believe their malice will ever cease. In a very real way their malice has quite literally ruined my life, but a part of me feels that life does indeed give us these tests of strength. The point is, life isn't fair but if we follow the eye for eye approach, we never progress. Not just as individuals, as a species, we're doomed.

Gaza and Kosovo tell us that.

The desire for revenge is the flawed desire of thinking that actions in the present can alter the past; they can't. Crying over spilt milk doesn't clear up the puddle of milk on the floor.

Yes, I believe that the campaign of malice I've had to endure for a year and a half, which still keeps me awake till after four AM most mornings, is something I most certainly didn't DESERVE.
I did nothing to the person concerned which justifies their treatment of me in any way at all. I have never caused them any pain in any way, shape or form.

So- should I forgive?

Well, yes. Because these things aren't a bargain. True, I will get nothing back except more mud kicked in my face. They will continue with every attempt they can to urinate in my face just to satisfy their hatred. They will do it because for them, it's win-win. Because they know I have to fight MYSELF to stay forgiving.

But I think for me it's all about 'Love your enemies. Because if you only love them that love you, where is the reward in that?'

And until people get their heads round that, then they don't understand forgiveness, they don't understand love and any system of morals they put forward will be substandard.

CherryPie said...

Crushed - A very difficult set of thoughts to address here and one of the topics I would have preferred you not to have raised on my blog.

I think forgiveness is harder when the one you are supposed to forgive, shows no sign of repentance or remorse. That is where Angus' comment 'Acceptance' comes in, it is quite subtly different from forgiveness.

Nobody should expect to be forgiven. It for the person who is doing the forgiving to decide and they don't have to tell the other person they have done it.

If you forgive and you have got nothing back you haven't really forgiven. By forgiving it should give you something back even if it is only inner peace.

Personally I don't love my enemies (not that there are many), I don't hate them either I just feel sorry for them!

CherryPie said...

One final thought for the evening:
My actions are my only true belongings. I cannot escape the consequences of my actions. My actions are the ground upon which I stand.
~Thich Nhat Hanh

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